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, virginia, is former governor tim kaine, who is now chairman of the democratic national committee. thank you, governor -- thank you, mr. chairman, for joining us. i want to start out talking about health care reform. you think democrats should be out there bragging about it. so what do you make of the democrats who are putting out those ads, bragging that they voted against it? >> well, candy, i travel all over the country. i guess i've been in about 42 states. and most democrats i see on the trail are very proud of the accomplishment and they're talking about it. but you're right, some, particularly house members in districts that, you know, can often get gerrymandered and become tough districts are distancing themselves from the health care bill. i don't tell people how to run their races, but i've been on a ballot seven times and won seven races, and in my experience, you ought to be proud of what you're doing and promote the accomplishments. now, obviously, folks who voted against health care, they're going to talk about why. but i think for the democratic party, generally, this signific
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